Today was an incredibly exciting day.
Earlier this year I went to the Louis Belet factory in Switzerland. At the risk of succumbing to cliches, I would like to say that it was life altering.
The organisation of the factory, the workplace culture, the care and commitment for on-time delivery, the massive investment into RnD, the pursuit for perfection in every day tasks and the seeming laser focus of every single machine operator, sales manager, design team member etc. Etc. It blew me away. If you ever have the opportunity to tour, please - do it.
On my tour I asked about something that I had seen at a trade fair the previous year, solid ceramic cutting tools. The response I got was interesting, a mixture of technical explanation and sales pitch, but surprisingly, very very little sales pitch.
There was almost hesitation in Arnaud's voice when talking about these tools (Arnaud - the 3rd generation CEO of the family owned company)
These tools were the venture into uncharted territory in this field. Ceramic tools have been made before, usually in the form of turning inserts for hard metals, but this was different. This was micro tooling specifically for high efficiency cutting in brass. Almost exclusively used in the watchmaking industry. The problem being that watch manufacturers usually aren't too willing to buy into new forms of tooling, and, therefore, very few people are willing to test these tools. We were.
The benefits? Almost no wear. The claim is that these tools last orders of magnitude longer than brass. Further, the surface finish should not degrade as quickly.
This is due to the almost magical edge retention of the cutting surfaces.
The drawbacks? You need an extremely rigid and dynamic machine to use these tools. They don't withstand vibrations or shocks - think of how brittle your fine China dining set is. Yep. That's what we are cutting with. (Thank you Kern Pyramid Nano for the ability to use these tools!) I ordered these tools on Monday afternoon, they travelled around the world and arrived in Brookvale, in Sydney's northern beaches, on Friday morning. Amazing!
The white is ceramic, grey- carbide.
Josh
Friday, August 24, 2018
Wednesday, August 15, 2018
From the workshop
We didn't make a single watch part in the
entire month of August. Instead, the focus was on tool making and a work
piece holding solution. Precisely: the main plate holder 2.0.
Happy
to report that the new tool has been designed, coded and
manufactured in our own workshop using our own machinery, without any
external help or support. The tolerances are as per expectations,
precision has been improved, the tool is lighter without sacrificing
rigidity, and there is a substantial saving in raw material used in
watch main plate production. I can't wait to see the new parts coming
out this week.
Time invested in this project: over 120 hours.
Another
important detail: we are able to do the CNC equipment
maintenance ourselves! Thanks to video support from Germany, and local
support from Japanese makers, the down time is minimal. This was
something that was worrying me from day one, and knowing that we can do
almost all maintenance ourselves is certainly making the project less
stressful and more enjoyable.
Friday, August 10, 2018
So do you still do repairs?
The
short answer is - yes - and no. There are a number of watches and
brands we wouldn't even touch: all Rolex watches manufactured after
2010; all modern IWC, JLC, Cartier, Panerai- the Richemont Group
brands. Why? Because they refuse to supply parts so we are not
interested in those watches - even when a repair is possible or an easy
job to do. We also stay away from Breitling for the same reason.
However,
we love jobs rejected by Rolex. If they reject your watch, or quote a
ridiculous amount, or bundle one repair with another - trying to upsell -
then you should contact us and we will be happy to see what can
be done. Especially so with any vintage sports models.
We
also do plenty repairs of vintage Omega watches - because we can still
source parts for older models. Again, in most cases, the cutoff year is
2010.
The
third group of repairs are lesser-known vintage pieces and pocket
watches. The success rate is 80% or
better. In general, our customers are serious collectors or watch owners
who have their reasons why they would prefer to deal with independent
watchmakers rather than Swiss brand services. Our charges are
reasonable, but for those whose main concern is price, we suggest
they take their business to our competitors.
Recent repairs:
A
gold water damaged 18k Rolex rejected by Rolex due to custom diamond
bezel. The restoration included movement, case and bezel restoration.
Similar project on a 1980s Cartier, also rejected by Cartier. A water
damaged Speedmaster.
A number of vintage GMT Masters and Submariners from 1960-1980. A
vintage Stowa and Cyma. And a Nomos with a winding issue which we
managed to repair for just $150.
All repair quotes are free of charge.
For watch repairs in Sydney email nick@clockmaker.com.au if you have any questions, call (02) 9232-0500, or visit our workshop in the Sydney CBD:
Nicholas Hacko Fine Watches: Suite 403, Level 4, 67 Castlereagh Street Sydney Monday to Thursday 11am-5pm, Friday 10am to 4pm.
Friday, July 13, 2018
MK1 winding crown problem solved
It
was clear: the 6mm crown was simply too small. And a number of you
jumped in saying the 9mm crown on our current models was simply too
large for your wrist, literally begging us not to go XL. I agree. Well,
it's either going to be 7mm or 8mm. And, then, after putting our
thoughts on paper, it became obvious that there was no way for us to
figure out which size is going to be perfect. Solution: we are now
commissioning both sizes - 7mm AND 8mm - so MK1 owners will have the
option to select the perfect size for their wrist. The overall
cost increase to the project is $24 per watch which I believe is a small
price to pay for such a brilliant solution.
We
ask, we share, and, most importantly of all, we listen - and we do what
you want us to do. And this is precisely what micro watch brands are
all about.
And
while we are still on the Mark1, I would like to share a photo of the
calendar wheel cover plate just to demonstrate a simple point. The
mechanism that we will be fitting in Mark1 is custom-finished in
Switzerland by one of the top movement manufacturers. While the rotor
side is as finely decorated as the movement that IWC uses in their
watches, it is the reverse side that shows the attention to detail and
the overall quality. Our calendar wheel cover plate is hand-decorated
with a perlage finish. A small, but not unimportant, detail and
certainly not something that anyone will ever see except the watchmaker
who will assemble your watch. And here is another detail which is
actually very important. Our
movement is fitted with 25 jewels while IWC count is 21. Plus our
movement is adjusted to pass Swiss chronometer certification but the
fact that the watch is going to be assembled in Australia, it won't come
with a piece of paper saying so. But you do know that and that is the
only thing that matters.
Nevertheless,
as an owner of an MK1 you can be proud of the fact that no-one can say
that your watch is inferior to an IWC. In fact, the contrary.
Thursday, July 5, 2018
What a night
A
mixed crowd of watchmakers, machinists and watch enthusiasts gathered
together once again, this time in Brookvale, for a night of horological
fun last night. And what fun it was! We started at 6:30 with dinner,
then proceeded with 3 presentations - then mingled together, and finally
enjoyed a CNC mill demonstration, with the last guests leaving close to
midnight! Actually we were so busy that none of us even thought of
taking a photo or two. In one word: a success!
Since
our intention is to keep our workshop doors open and continue with
horological gatherings on a monthly basis, our next gathering will take
place on a Sunday, at 11am (date to be confirmed, most likely the end of
August). Switching from Wednesday to Sunday will allow us to be more
flexible with time. Obviously, we are proud of the fact that we can
offer such a unique opportunity to colleagues and collectors - so if you
are interested to join us next time, RSVP early. Email us directly for
programme details and to RSVP your spot.
Wednesday, July 4, 2018
New financial year - same goals
A
small business is like a living organism: constantly changing,
evolving, growing - or at times stagnating or shrinking. For us, the
past few months stretched our limited resources to maximum – and it was
all about just two things: setting up the workshop and learning how to
use machinery. The good news is that we are entering a new financial
year feeling relieved, knowing that the workshop is (almost) completed.
On
the other hand, the side of the business which suffered was the
assembly of rebelde watches. Only 20 watches have been assembled in the
past 6 months. In some cases, the waiting time was 3 months rather than
the 3 weeks promised, but rebelde owners were very sympathetic and
supportive so delivery time was not an issue.
However,
my intention is to spend more time behind the bench and increase output
to at least 10 watches per month. As far as range is concerned: I
am running low on cases for classic Pilots (ribbed bezel, $2,500) steel
model so when the current batch is completed there will be at least a
year before new cases will be manufactured and delivered. The time to
order one is - now.
Our
flagship model F ('fifty' $5,000) has been almost sold out. This
piece is the only watch in the world guaranteed for 50 years where all
servicing, labour and parts are included in the purchase price. Less
than 10 pieces are still available and there are no immediate plans to
offer another batch any time soon.
The
situation is bit more 'comfortable' with W batch (steel, smooth
bezel, $2,500). The latest Titanium batch is the only Titanium model D
in production. It comes with black dial and red seconds hand at 9
o'clock. It is fitted with a 'premium
Swiss movement, swan neck regulator and gold balance wheel - same as in
the fifty model - with a price tag of $3,500. There are plenty of
available serial numbers!
Finally,
I am yet to assemble the last couple of 18K gold pieces. I’m definitely
not in a hurry to get rid of them! When sold, there will be no more 18K
gold watches any time soon: the minimum batch run is 20 watches which
would require an investment of $148,000 in gold alone! Price: $13,980
and your pick: rose or yellow gold.
To
say that we are very proud of our rebelde project would be
an understatement. Over 600 rebelde watches have been assembled in the
past 4 years, and to my knowledge, each and every one is in good working
order. As we proudly say: there is no such thing as a broken rebelde!
So if you decide to invest in a masculine, robust, reliable and fully
reparable watch, designed and assembled in Australia, then I can't think
of any other watch that would fit your requirement than - rebelde.
It
has been 2 years since we've stopped selling Panerai watches. Today,
we made one final, symbolic gesture: we have removed the Panerai
category from our website. Instead, you will find in its place a
permanent listing of 7 rebelde models we have on offer. While our watch
is no
substitute for Panerai, it has stood the test of time and deserves every
right to stand on its own.
Click the link below to be taken directly to our Nicholas Hacko watches:
Perlage - the art of hand finishing
Perlage
- a traditional watch part decorating technique - consists of small,
overlapping circles, achieved with a rotating, grinding tip.
Yesterday,
Josh designed and made a jig, and then had a first attempt at perlage
on our own main plate. I say not a bad job - actually, much better than
one found on mass-produced Swiss plates. There is something special
going on here: a CNC machined part receiving the final touches by hand,
in the old, traditional manner. Stay tuned for more!
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Tuesday, June 26, 2018
Andrew's tool holder video receives 5000 views on Instagram
An ugly looking,
hardened piece of steel transformed
into a beautifully finished tool. The
cut can only be described as black
mirror finish. Cutting time: 5 hours.
Andrew designed it, drew it,
programmed it and then cut it on EDM.
And this is
exactly what we are trying to create
here in Sydney: an opportunity for
smart kids to express themselves in an
amazing way. Make no mistake: no
University workshop would offer such
an opportunity, and no commercial
enterprise would 'waste' thousands of
dollars just for the sake of learning.
But we have no choice but to invest in
kids, to allow them to fully develop,
so that one day they will be making
some amazing timepieces.
Monday, June 25, 2018
It's all about workmanship
So what is the big deal with watchmaking and clockmaking, you may ask? In one word: it’s all about workmanship. For hundreds of years makers not only made timepieces but worked insanely hard to 'outdo' each other. Finishes, shapes, metal work, design, functionality all intertwined together with one goal: to impress and showcase the maker’s genius.
My approach is less pompous - but there is no room for improvisation and cutting corners. Here is just one example.
Yesterday the plan was to turn four brass pillars for regulator mainplates. Since this is still a prototype the focus was on construction rather than beauty. However, it soon became obvious that the inexpensive Chinese die for thread forming was outputting a rather inferior thread. Surely, once the nut is fastened, no-one would see it - except, of course, me. And that would bug me. So I pulled out a German die - and what a difference! Judge it for yourself: The first 5 turns were formed by a quality precision die, and the last 5 with an inferior one.
If you
now wonder why I didn’t use 'the proper'
die in the first place the answer is -
Hahnreiter dies are expensive and should
not be used on prototyping – and,
further, the die holder for our
Schaublin has not arrived yet. So I made
one myself - which turned the 20 minute
pillar job into a whole afternoon tool
making project. Time wasted? Absolutely
not.
And
while we are on Hahnreiter: the German
precision toolmaking company dates back
to the mid 1800's. After the second
World War the factory was flattened to
dust but in 1947 the firm restarted its
tool manufacturing business with just
one employee. Today, Hahnreiter is the
leader in German tap and die
engineering. They have 2600
different die sizes in stock and an
order placed by 3:30pm is shipped the
same day. Talk about the power of one!
Thursday, June 21, 2018
Major Milestone
Major milestone: we've planted the watch winding stem! 0.6 mm drill travelling 20mm down to create 1.2mm deep hole. The action is at half speed and quite frankly nerve wracking. Next step: dial feet fasteners then some fine tuning. Yes, out of all places- watch made in Australia!
Friday, June 8, 2018
Watchmaker's regulator update
On
Sunday, six hours were spent behind the Schaublin turning the barrel.
The end result: about half done. I needed the grooving insert and boring
bar to continue further, and, quite frankly, after standing for six
hours my legs were just killing me. Josh quickly placed an order for
tools and on Thursday a small packet arrived from Sumitomo, Japan.
Sumitomo
was founded in 1907 and today is one of
the fine-tuned, multi-industry corporations which span from automotive
to energy, electronics, semi-conductors to toolmaking. The cutting
tools division was founded in 1927 with the development of cement
carbide inserts. To say that they know how to make an excellent cutter
would be an understatement. As expected, the small parcel on the bench
was every bit you would expect from the land of the rising sun: a piece
of art itself.
There
is no guesswork figuring out the cutting speed or misunderstanding the
other important parameters. Each insert is individually bar coded and
traceable - indicating that a tool like this is used to make components
that will later fit into devices of the most importance - think of
airplanes and
submarines, satellites and super fast trains - where mistake is not an
option. Certainly an overkill for a humble Australian handmade clock –
but, to be perfectly honest, being exposed to perfection is not a bad
thing.
One
thing is certain - if you can't turn a 17th century clock part on a
Swiss Schaublin using the most advanced Japanese cutter then you have
no-one to blame but yourself.
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Friday, June 1, 2018
A bizarre conversation in the factory fires up our most important tool – our imagination
To
be perfectly honest with you, the novelty of making the most perfect
regulator gear wore off pretty quickly. While the machining process is
painfully slow - and painfully expensive - the end result is
predictable: each wheel is identical to the previous one down to a
couple of microns. Yes, we are dreaming the dream of every horologist
who has lived in the past 500 years. But perfection, without
imagination, is simply boring.
On
Wednesday Andrew and myself were just about to cut the last spoke, and
we started thinking about how to design a recess which will accept a
power maintaining spring. Traditionally, the spring itself is just an
unattractive steel wire hidden behind the gear.
"I am sure we can do better than that, my boy" was enough to kick the young apprentice’s mind into gear.
"What if we make the spring out of brass? What if we design it to
become an integral part of the wheel itself?" He asked.
"Sure - but why stop there?" I replied. "Let’s make it in the shape of a little sea monster who will hold the return pin in his mouth".
We
argued a bit whether the sea monster had ears, does our mystical
creature look more like a worm or a caterpillar, while Josh poured cold
water on the idea by pointing out that brass has a very poor elasticity
memory and our spring is not going to work at all.
But it did.
It worked brilliantly: it fired up the most important tool we have - our imagination.
We
can all clearly see that every regulator clock we are going to make
will have a small, imperfect hand-filed and hand-finished "living"
mystical creature in it; a dragon or a rabbit, perhaps a snake or a
lizard, which will live inside the perfect mechanism like a little clock
guardian.
As crazy as it sounds, I wonder why in 500 years of gear cutting has no-one thought of this?
Monday, May 28, 2018
A quick update on the watchmaker's regulator
It's coming up alright. The drawings are
pretty much done and, with a bit of luck, we will start machining the
first parts on Wednesday so stay tuned.
Friday, May 25, 2018
Watchmaking: From mill to EDM and back (making the balance wheel cock)
For
those of you who are following the progress of the workshop, after
about a week of not making any measurable progress whatsoever, Josh and
Andrew programmed and machined the balance cock. What makes this
project special is that for the first time we are able to directly
transfer a machined component from the mill to EDM wire cutter and then
back to mill without loss of accuracy. In other words, you can use
Machine A, Machine B and then go back to Machine A all on the same
component. We are also able to prototype components of a thickness below
0.3 of a millimetre, which is the thickness of the balance wheel cock
at the point where it receives the incabloc jewel. Stay tuned for more
updates.
If
you missed the video we talked about last week that NYC CNC recorded
while setting up the workshop a few months ago, here is the link:
Monday, May 21, 2018
NYC CNC in Sydney
Earlier this year, while we were literally unpacking and setting up our newly-arrived machinery, Josh and Andrew got a knock on the door from a young American who happened to be in Sydney. His name is John. About 10 years ago, he got excited about CNC machining and bought a tiny mill which he then installed in his even tinier New York apartment. He started video recording his journey and sharing it on YouTube. Today, he is probably the most influential CNC YouTuber with a quarter of a million subscribers. John now runs his own CNC workshop but continues to tour the US visiting various manufacturers and sharing their stories.
Josh simply could not say no to John - so he invited him into our small workshop. The video itself is an amazing story of what happens when two young people, crazy about precision machining, bump into each other.
I am sure you will enjoy it.
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Friday, May 18, 2018
Made In Australia Project Update
Another busy and productive week. The current 'release' is 2.01 which means we have now moved to top movement layer:
- train / barrel bridge designed and milled
- bridge adjusted to height and jewelled
- successful test run, correct amplitude and timekeeping
In
this phase we are slowly moving away from Unitas 6498 design and away
from direct compatibility. In other words, we are no longer cloning but
also 'genetically modifying'.
There
is still more to be done at the top layer: drilling and tapping for the
crown wheel and click /click spring, as well as milling the channel for
the sliding pinion. We expect to continue further as soon as we receive
a few more tools and tool holders from the land of Heidi.
Obviously we are
not focusing on finishes - the mechanism is still in its 'raw' form.
Very
pleased to note that our project is generating a considerable amount of
interest primarily from fellow European watchmakers and machinists.
Can't ask for more!
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Thursday, May 10, 2018
Schaublin 102 - finally
This
is probably the third or even fourth post on 102 - the most agonising tool
acquisition since we decided to get into watch manufacturing. Full credit goes
to a handful of subscribers who, despite my own doubts, remained stubbornly supportive
and pointed out the obvious: while 102 costs more than a mid-class European
sedan, it will not only pay itself off
but it will outlast 5 cars.
Yet
it was only after we unpacked the lathe that we were blown away with its
beauty.
And
I am not talking here merely about the quality of workmanship, the lack of
backlash, or the way various attachments fit perfectly into each other. It
is the very maturity of the Schaublin lathe that will impress any keen machinist:
after 100 years of development, 102 has reached the stage where
there
is really nothing that could have been done better, simpler, more accurate
or more beautiful. We could hear its voice: "I, the tool, was here decades
before your grandfather, making watch and clock parts. And I am here to stay,
to outlive you and your apprentices. Respect me, take good care of me, learn
how to play me and play with me - and
you will be amazed."
In
a way, my mission is accomplished. We got the Stradivarius - and we are now
ready for an Aussie Paganini to play on it.
Thinking
of becoming a watchmaker's apprentice? More than ever, we are looking
for enthusiastic, keen and talented kids to join our project in January
2019. Time to apply - is now.
Thursday, April 26, 2018
Seeing is believing
Watchmaking is all about precision - and taking accurate measurements during the design and manufacturing process is essential. However, when it comes to the art of horology, often the relationship between arbours, bearings and gear meshing is a matter of 'how if feels' rather then how it should be engineered. As strange as it may seem, often the 'ideal' fit is not the most desired one; theoretical shapes and tolerances are not the most perfect. Why? Because tight tolerances do not necessary translate into long-term reliability or the best timekeeping under stress, changes in temperature and gravity. There is a saying that engineers are poor watchmakers which is equally true the other way around.
Some of you may remember the acquisition of a microscope for our workshop. I certainly do - we sacrificed a really fine watch in order to acquire this lovely instrument. But it was worth it! When it comes to the inspection of surfaces, part geometry, and the inspection of cutting tools, a microscope is worth its weight in gold. Trying to make a watch without being able to understand how the Swiss have done it would be impossible. So we observe, learn and try to replicate.
Here are just two examples. The first photo shows the mesh in a high grade Swiss watch. The second one is our attempt to copy the Swiss. A person with a keen eye could clearly see the difference in the meshing depth between the two examples. Without any doubt, our mesh is far tighter, more precise, and follows the 'ideal' calculated point of contact. However, we soon discovered that the sloppier Swiss way was actually more desirable. The winding action was actually smoother than ours! Lesson learned.
The second example: a short video showing the very tip of the balance staff inside the shock absorbing jewel. This is an actual recording of a high grade Swiss watch still in brand new condition. I have no doubt that any engineer (or car mechanic) would be horrified. But this is how it is, and this is how it's done. Check it out: Of course, do keep in mind that you are observing an arbour with 100 microns diameter under 240 x magnification.
Monday, April 23, 2018
Friday, April 20, 2018
Friday, April 6, 2018
Main plate holder [watchmaking]
The
purpose of this quick report is just that - to provide an update
to those who follow our watchmaking progress. Also, we feel that sharing
our trials and tribulations may one day help someone on their own
watchmaking journey.
Last week we started to prototype the main plate. The
main focus was on positional tolerances and working out the 'perfect'
press fit for the main train jewels. But it wasn't long until we figured
out that we are wasting too much material; precisely over 60%. In
addition, our work holding method was excellent in relation to rigidity,
however, our solution would be very inefficient for mass production -
even a quantity of just a dozen pieces at a time.
We
had two options: To continue with prototyping or to pause and find
a better clamping
solution before we go any further. I voted for the first option: to keep
learning and not to worry about waste. However, I was quickly outvoted
by Josh (who already had Andrew on his side). The final straw was a
video which clearly shows a very effective mainplate holding solution on
Willemin Macodel CNC, as demonstrated at Baselworld in 2015. Here is
the link to it. Definitely worth watching:
In just 3 working
days, putting in a solid 50 hours of work, Josh and Andrew designed,
coded and manufactured our new 'clamp'. The benefits are already paying
off:
- we can use a smaller blank than before, while there is no compromise on rigidity;
- the brass waste is now below 50%
- the new work-holding piece allows for both sides milling plus 90 deg side cut without having to
re-clamp the piece;
-
and, most importantly, the new blanks could be clamped directly
without pre-machining preparation which saves 25 minutes per piece!
Thursday, March 29, 2018
4-Jaw Chuck
Some
hobbyist machinists love it - and others hate it. And, I guess, it is
fair to say that those who hate it have actually never got around to
learning how to centre it properly. Which is rather a shame because
there are countless YouTube videos out there dealing with the subject.
Our
Schaublin 102 is still somewhere south of Suez, but the 4-jaw
chuck arrived separately this week. It was a
'non-catalogue' accessory supplied by Rohm. This was a bit of surprise -
after all, Schaublin is a work-holding specialist themselves. However,
the 4-jaw chucks are a much different beast than collets.
Rohm
is a German family business which specialises in chucks. They've
been making lathe chucks since 1909 and they are regarded as the world's
leading chuck manufacturer. And that's all they do. (Have you noticed
that the O in Rohm is actually a chuck?). This German company is very
proud of the fact that they can manufacture work-holding pieces up to 4
metres in diameter and weighing 25 tons! When it comes to production
capacity: Rohm can assemble 92,000 chucks in 5 days.
There is something mighty powerful about German manufacturing - and we are proud to have a piece of it in our Sydney workshop.
Tuesday, March 27, 2018
Baby steps
The inner bearing surface of the watch jewel is one of the most 'perfect' surfaces on Earth! Made of synthetic ruby, jewels are laser-drilled, then polished with tungsten wire and diamond paste. Both the inner and outer diameter are perfect as well. This one is R=0.500 mm and the inner radius is just 50 microns. However, the modern jewels are still the pale shade of jewels used in the finest 1800's marine chronometers which were made of real diamonds, hand-drilled and hand-polished - and still perfectly functional today!
Last week we started machining our first watch main plate. The challenge: to figure out both jewel hole sizes and the distances/angles between the jewels in the main train. These are watchmaking machining fundamentals - and yet another of the many best kept secrets in the watchmaking industry. While you can tell your mill where to create a hole, and while you know what the outside diameter of the jewel is, finding the 'perfect' friction fit between ruby and brass is something you can only figure out after a number of attempts. No machine or software can tell you how 'just right' feels like; it is the years behind the watchmaker's bench which ultimately determines the outcome.
The bottom line is this: If your shaft is the size of a hair, how much off centre can you afford to be?
After last week's exercise, Josh started making a bold prediction how soon we could potentially have our in-house movement. I am still very cautious and conservative, and reluctant to be drawn into speculation, but there isn't the slightest doubt in my mind that one day we will have a true made in Australia calibre. Exciting days ahead!
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